Monday, October 24, 2016

Have any of the papers in question been retracted?

To counter the bullshit, I have been doing a bit of information dropping, especially on this comment.
Concerning formaldehyde,
This is one of the popular, AV lists allegedly proving a link between autism and vaccines. Currently deconstructing the list that is presented.  If by "treatment" she means shoving bleach up a kids ass, I will respectfully decline.
Two questions were asked concerning aluminum and vaxxed-unvaxxed studies. Again SW a bit faster on the draw than I.
"More accurate methods of measuring volumes in that minute a range would be techniques called gas chromatography/mass spectrometry, or GC/MS, in which chemicals are ionized (having an electron removed, usually), and the now-electrically charged molecule or chemical is measured by its mass and charge. This is a longer (and expensive) procedure, but extremely accurate. Gas chromatography, the “GC” part, is carried out before the “MS” step, and separates your targeted chemical from other chemicals in your sample.

"Peter Davies, an emeritus professor of plant biology at Cornell, in an interview with the Genetic Literacy Project warned against ELISA as a useful test at very low concentrations,,,"
One of the "new" tropes used is the Thompson Debacle concerning the CDC. They like to trot out Thompson's statement via his lawyer.  BUT they leave 2 things out,,, his full statement and the fact that Hooker's re-analysis (which Thompson's statement is based on) has been retracted.


So when that doesn't work, they pull their big gun, or what they think is their big gun - CDC Blocks Testimony of Vaccine Whistleblower says World Mercury Project.  What Kennedy et al neglect. The Hazelhurst claim is a civil malpractice case and a simple rule of law. "[M]edical malpractice is assessed based on what is known at the time, not in hindsight."

http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/cdc-refuses-william-thompson-testify/
Some new ammunition the AVers are adding to their arsenal.

What I find odd concerning this letter, it is dated August 29 it is now October 23.  The only public statement pertaining to this issue is via USRTK and Robert Kennedy, Jr..  You would think two months passing would be enough for MSM to catch wind of this accusation or at least some rumblings in the blogosphere.  There is nothing that I can tell.  Not that it means much but it does make you wonder.

I'll be honest, this appears as another Thompson Debacle.

What I have been able to find comes from Gillam's piece,
A group calling itself CDC Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research, or CDC SPIDER, put a list of complaints in writing in a letter to the CDC Chief of Staff and provided a copy of the letter to the public watchdog organization U.S. Right to Know (USRTK). The members of the group have elected to file the complaint anonymously for fear of retribution.
While Gillam notes that USRTK is a "public watchdog organization", their claim to fame is primarily an anti-GMO organization. What is a food watchdog group doing in the vaccine domain?

As Lynas notes in regards to a previous action by USRTK,
USRTK’s funding is substantial: after all, launching lawsuits against entire universities is an expensive business. USRTK also recently recruited Carey Gillam, an ex-Reuters reporter whose notoriously biased wire pieces obviously indicated an alliance of anti-GMO ideological interests.
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But here the problems begin. OCA has published numerous articles on its website promoting anti-vaccine and other anti-science campaigns. For example, one article claims that the deadly ebola virus “can be prevented and treated naturally”, for example by using “intravenous Vitamin C”. OCA also promotes homeopathy, and publishes numerous pieces claiming child vaccines cause autism.
On its swine and bird flu pages, the Organic Consumers Association makes the following absurd and dangerous statement: “It is important to know how to protect your children and yourself with homeopathic and natural alternatives to vaccines to build your natural immunity to the swine flu.” OCA also publishes 9/11 Trutherconspiracy theory material.
Lynas notes further,
I wanted to give USRTK’s director Gary Ruskin a chance to respond to concerns that its funding from anti-vaccine activist groups might lead people to suspect that USRTK shared an anti-vaccine ideological agenda as well as an anti-GMO one – there are many overlaps in these two campaigns, as I have written before.
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I am still waiting for a response. I tried following up via Twitter, but… crickets.
My adversary in his last posting, closed with this statement, "Only those who are involved know the truth, the rest is speculation."

My question, still unanswered was this, "have any of the papers in question been retracted?"

So as I sit a wait for a reply, not that I will get one, I ponder what may become of the SPIDER Debacle.  Will we once again have to combat utter bullshit, or is reason beginning to prevail?

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