Me on the other hand, I could give two shits who reads my stuff. I don't do it for the audience, I do it for me. If someone finds the information useful so be it. Guess that is why after 16 years I'm still doing it.
But I digress,,,
And FYI Angela I don't do phone or email. I work out in the pubic sphere for all to see. So no, I won't be calling you or emailing you as we all know how that turns out. And I know you follow my antics on twitter so you will be notified of this posting asking for your responses. Your failure to respond will be taken as you have no response and acknowledgement that the information is rehashed garbage. And bring your A-game darling.
Anywho, in my last post concerning Angela, she took a few minutes to respond. While you can read the responses there I thought for shits and giggles that I would compile them into a blog posting.
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Since you provide no supporting documents in your screed, I am assuming you are referring to the Institute for Science in Medicine founded in 2009 by 27 Founding Fellows including Dr Gorski. I am unsure what the Institute has to do with the initial article in your tirade - Experts denounce clinical trials of unscientific, 'alternative' medicines.
What is this 26 Aug, 2014 non citation referring to? The "quotation" from the article you provide tells us nothing. And the only entry on SBM for that date concerns Wakefield.
One question I would like to pose to you,,,
Why do you have such an issue with this article, calling for an end to "highly implausible treatments", if you are so against the "bad medicine" of vaccination? It would be right up your alley as you believe vaccines are "implausible" preventive measures.
Not to be critical but if you want to be taken seriously you should really provide proper URLs or citations to articles (or blog posts) to avoid confusion.
While you call Scott Gavura's article "disgusting" and state the photo "fake", you offer nothing to refute Scott's presented information.
In his article he documents the case of Heather Dexter, one of many examples available on the inter-web. Are all the documented cases false? What about all the photo's, are they all fake?
Please, by all means, if you can provide well established medical and scientific information refuting Scott's information, I would be happy to read it. Although you would have to provide proper citation to such so I (and others) can find it.
And what exactly are pathologist going to tell Dr Gorski that he already doesn't know? If you read his offerings on SBM concerning vaccines and vaccinations, you will find his writing very well researched and cited with relevant supporting material. You on the other hand provide nothing but opinion.
Thank you for catching my typo, it has been corrected. As a recent stroke victim, my eyes are not as good as they used to be and big pHARMA doesn't pay their shills very well, if at all, to get them completely fixed. I haven't received jack shit since moving to Mumbai a year ago. In his article he documents the case of Heather Dexter, one of many examples available on the inter-web. Are all the documented cases false? What about all the photo's, are they all fake?
Please, by all means, if you can provide well established medical and scientific information refuting Scott's information, I would be happy to read it. Although you would have to provide proper citation to such so I (and others) can find it.
And what exactly are pathologist going to tell Dr Gorski that he already doesn't know? If you read his offerings on SBM concerning vaccines and vaccinations, you will find his writing very well researched and cited with relevant supporting material. You on the other hand provide nothing but opinion.
Actually I live in north-central PA, USA, as a PT dishwasher. Currently, although a year from my first stroke, I am still in recovery and unable to work FT. If you want to hear what I sound like you can catch me on BTTP, a weekly atheist themed show I am a co-host. (Thought I would save you the trouble of snooping on my FB page,,,lol,,,although it is public.)
While that is besides the point, it's nice to know that your grammar and typing ability are so perfect that typos are not part of your repertoire. Had you actually read Scott's article you would have realized I was speaking to DTaP and not DtP.
As you state DtP has not been used in the US since 1996, what you fail to mention is that "t]here are several formulations of vaccines used to prevent diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. Some are combined with vaccines to prevent other diseases and reduce the total number of shots that someone receives at one office visit. In the U.S., DTaP, Tdap, and Td vaccines are most commonly used. One of these (DTaP) is given to children younger than 7 years of age, and two (Tdap and Td) are given to older children and adults." Regretfully the nomenclature is easily confused.
Please cite where you are getting the figure of ",,,460000 PER CENT increase in whooping cough in USA, since 1996,,,". I can not find this figure in any literature. Is that a typo? And specifically what age group are you referring to as DTaP is only used under the age of 7? (Tdap is given to older children and adults.)
Do you or anyone close to you require Humulin? If so might want to rethink that as Humulin is a GE/GM product. Or are you against the use of insulin as well?
You may want to reconsider this statement, ",,,this untested, untrialled vaccine based more on GMO,,,"
The pertussis vaccine clinical trials conducted during the 1990s were widely regarded as highly successful. The need to conduct the trials was clear. Industry, academia, and US and international governmental partners quickly came together, which resulted in the trials largely starting and concluding in the first half of the decade. In addition to rapidly generating efficacy data that supported the licensure of acellular vaccines in many countries, the unprecedented level of collaboration across these groups laid a foundation for ongoing vaccine development efforts and collaborations in many different areas—a legacy that persists today,,, http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/209/suppl_1/S4.longSee also:: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/100/5/772.long
Although differences were observed in reaction rates among the DTaP vaccines given as a fourth dose, the DTaP vaccines were, in general, associated with fewer adverse events than a US-licensed DTwP. For DTaP vaccines, fever; irritability; and injection site pain, redness, and swelling occurred more frequently after the fourth dose than after the third dose of the same vaccine in the primary series. No DTaP was consistently most or least reactogenic or immunogenic. Although serologic correlates of pertussis immunity are not defined, it is clear that most DTaP vaccines can stimulate comparable or higher serum antibody responses than DTwP for those antigens contained in the vaccine.Just two of many if you utilize PubMed or Google Scholar.
"Even FDA clearly stated in 2013, that the vaccinated, WERE THE CARRIERS SPREADING WHOOPING COUGH TO BABIES, without symptoms."
First here is the press release you speak of; and here is the study. Now was that hard providing the proper URLs?
Let's take a look shall we,,,
I'm not quite sure what you are insinuating. Might it be that science was not aware that the acellular pertussis vaccine is not as protective as the whole cell version? We already knew that.
And, you do realize this study was performed on baboons? As the paper notes, "[a]lthough a variety of small-animal models have been used to study pertussis, none of them adequately reproduce the human disease." It is why this study is important, while animal models don't always cross over to the human population ",,,we recently developed a nonhuman primate model of pertussis using baboons (Papio anubis) and found the disease is very similar to severe clinical pertussis."
And just an FYI, this notion of pertussis vaccination with asymptomatic infection has been documented at least since 2000. It's not something new and exciting.
Or maybe you're trying to say that only those who have been vaccinated carry the disease. Or worse yet, that the vaccine causes the asymptomatic infection. Put another way, vaccines are useless because people still transmit pertussis.
First, let me address the notion of vaccines CAUSING the asymptomatic infection. Because, I think that is what you are trying to say. It is very simple really, it's not possible!!
Why?
The vaccine contains antigens, but not the whole bacteria. There is nothing alive in the vaccine, so there’s nothing to transmit.
Problem is you miss the big push of what this paper does say. There is less chance of a vaccinated individual contracting pertussis than an unvaccinated individual. As well as, if you are vaccinated and DO contract pertussis, symptoms are not as severe. In other words, being vaccinated against whooping cough is not a guarantee that it will prevent an asymptomatic infection, but it will lessen the severity.
Taken all together is shows the importance of attaining and maintaining herd immunity. A concept I assume you do not accept as being real.
Really Angela I am quite disappointed. For all your bloviating, you got nothing. No originality in thought what so ever from someone of your alleged background.



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